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Europe has very high taxes, plus VAT

Europe is also far more liberal than the US


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Originally Posted by Diggydug View Post
politifact is garbage when will you realize this?

Stop using it
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireS...facts-36351336
CLINTON on effects of Obama's health care law: "We now have driven costs down to the lowest they've been in 50 years."
THE FACTS: Not so. Health care spending is far higher than a half century ago. What she must have meant is that the rate of growth of health care spending year to year is lower than it's been in 50 years closer to the truth, but still not right.
The government reported in December that health care spending in 2014 grew at the fastest pace since Obama took office, driven by expanded coverage under his law and rising drug prices. Not only that, but health care spending grew faster than the economy as a whole, reaching 17.5 percent of GDP. That means health care was claiming a growing share of national resources.
This was after five years of historically low growth in health spending the decline Clinton was trying to address. But the lull in health care inflation was attributed in large measure to the recession that Obama inherited and its aftermath, not his law. And part of the reason health spending increased after that was because of the economic recovery.
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New graphic for Bernie's healthcare plan, compared to Hillary's:




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I wasn't saying politifact was wrong in that case, I am saying politifact is garbage and to stop citing it as any type of source.

What about corporate taxes? What does bern wanna do with those?


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Originally Posted by Diggydug View Post
I wasn't saying politifact was wrong in that case, I am saying politifact is garbage and to stop citing it as any type of source.

What about corporate taxes? What does bern wanna do with those?
https://berniesanders.com/the-sander...x-reform-plan/



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My only problem with that is closing loopholes isn't as easy as just saying "you cant do this anymore" without accidentally setting up new loopholes due to legal mumbo jumbo.

This is something I'd actually like to see done it's just such a daunting task without implementing more major changes to the tax system that I don't see it happening. And any major change to a tax system is probably going to be unpopular.


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lol a new CNN New Hampshire poll shows Bernie leading 60% to 33%, a 27% gap.

Bernie is also more than doubling Hillary in terms of net favorability in this poll:
  • Bernie--- +84%
  • Hillary--- +39%

91% favourable rating among Democratic primary voters.
A- rating from 538, although this seems to look like an outlier right now.



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Trump's never been stumped i don't see the big deal.


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538 just updated Bernie's chances of winning New Hampshire: 63%




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