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Originally Posted by eduard khil View Post
Again it's all subjective about if you think him being Conservative and Christian is bad. There are still some democratic presidents that I like. And every president has tripled the debt under their term it seems like. The American economy and national debt are slightly different.
I definitely don't think conservatives and Christians are bad, I just think some of them are. TBH, I'm not even claiming that Ronald Reagan was a bad president. I'm just reflecting on some of the things that I researched about him (source).

I don't like the majority viewpoint of conservatism, but as long as a country is becoming a more equal and peaceful place, then it's whatever. In my opinion, reasonable equality and peace is probably only going to happen with democratic parties because there's typically an agreement of separation of church and state, but hey, some conservatives are changing.

By the way, in all of this, I'm not claiming that your current president is amazing. Hell, I barely know anything about him, too. I like his views on things, but I have no clue on what he's done to the country.

Mind you, I'm completely up for discussing the little I know about politics in your poll thread. It's fun. This thread is for the whole gay =/= pedophilia/polygamy discussion though.
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Originally Posted by Aetius View Post
You'd love America. You can go to jail in some states for "raping" a person who is under 18, since they cannot consent.

It's only the boys who go to jail though.
Oh man, sounds wonderful.
I assume this is where all the "accuse the dude of rape when the sex isn't good enough" stories come from.

Or do you have more genius laws?

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[I know you're talking about gay marriage specifically, but I'm bored doing research atm and I thought this was quite applicable.]

The vast majority of the academic writing against the criminalisation etc of homosexuality (in uk at least) involves some sort of reference to the fact that we shouldn't be criminalising people over a sexual preference that they have no control over. I find it strange that this can be directly applied to things such a paedophilia but whenever I've mentioned this to somebody I always get the 'wtf is wrong with you' sort of response. This isn't to say that I think paedophilia should be decriminalised, but it is interesting that the crux of many arguments put forward is directly applicable to something people have absolutely 0 tolerance for. Of course there is a difference in terms of the concept of consent in these cases (ie children can't consent to sex in law) but if we're talking purely theoretically...

How liberal society's attitudes will go remains to be seen. I think right now that the suggestion that this will lead to the decriminalisation of something such as paedophilia is totally unrealistic, but who knows what will happen in the future. Afterall, you've got to remember that homosexuality was a criminal offence up until fairly recently (relatively speaking), and still is in some places. Society's beliefs can change dramatically and things that seem preposterous to us right now may well be completely normal in years to come. Keep an open mind!!
 
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As an interesting note, there are a lot of SJWs who are pedophiles, and because of this many SJWs defend the acts of these pedophiles, so it wouldn't be surprising to me if they soon tried to convince people to make it legal. And if you think SJWs are just a tiny minority, who don't have much of a say in anything, see what they've done to colleges.


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I've heard of this thanks to 4chan.

I legitimately do think people will try to use gay marriage as an opening to try to push other sex related ideas.

Polygamy isn't illegal and I don't see a problem with it, not that I'm into it but it's not harmful to society imo.

Pedophilia however. They can get the fuck out.


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They are big fans of Sarah Nyberg, a truly great person

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...e-nationalism/


tl;dr, she was attracted to underage girls, particularly her 8 year old cousin, who she shared possibly illegal pictures of. Also anyone who brings it up is harassing her and probably deserves to be doxed.


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These people would be this way regardless if gay marriage was legalized or not.



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But they use gay marriage as a basis, showing that if we can accept one, we should next accept the other.


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Originally Posted by bman7 View Post
But they use gay marriage as a basis, showing that if we can accept one, we should next accept the other.
Every law ever can be used to push a different agenda, but that doesn't mean shit if what you're trying to push for is something that's so insanely wrong.



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Originally Posted by Vault View Post
These people would be this way regardless if gay marriage was legalized or not.
Irrelevant. The point here is that they will try to push for this to be legal, and while I don't see pedophilia being legal it is weird that suddenly there's a growing group that's okay with it, no matter how small that group of people actually is.


Bestiality maybe but really I think we'd be hard pressed to go that far. Let's just watch Europe and see how far they go first.


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